[203] Other thinkers, for example Douglas Hofstadter, dismiss this argument as incoherent.[204] Various psychologists and ethologists have argued with the existence of animal consciousness by describing A variety of behaviors that show up to show animals holding beliefs about factors they can not specifically understand—Donald Griffin's 2001 book Animal Minds https://zpe42085.blogtov.com/16621393/top-string-theory-secrets